Thursday, January 22, 2015

Here's a Thought with Charles Shaughnessy 22 January, 2015

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Did you miss today's LIVE show?  Not to worry.  You can see it by clicking here  and watching it in the Here's a Thought with Charles Shaughnessy archives!
Post your comments and thoughts in the comments section here on the blog! Thanks to all who participated! Thought you might want to hear/buy the music from today, if so, it's all below!


Music on today's show
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                     Cat Stevens "Peace Train"
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                              U2 featuring Bono “One"
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10 comments:

  1. Great show! Enjoyed the music and the conversation! It's been a very stimulating week! Thanks Charlie!

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  2. great show charlie good music too it what i use to play yrs ago with my girlfriend and of course the Beatles , next week will be fun talking about the movies I know what i like to ask u about but i'll wait till next week to ask thanks again charlie really enjoy today show i would love hear some men call u love what u said about the men the women always taking over everything I agree they sure do seem to take over to many females we need man to i believe it .

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  3. Thank you Charlie and Janelle. interesting discussion. you should have 2 hours instead of one. also for the great music.
    I apologize for being a little egocentric, but I guess as a human being each one of us is looking at things through his own personal perspective. I am a Jew who is lucky enough to live in the Jewish state, but I also spent lately 5 years in Brussels and when I read that public schools in Belgium today are becoming "Jew free zones" I am concerned. Naturally, The attack in Paris drew the attention of the west. But the aftermath event, the attack on the Jewish grocery must not be attended as a side kick of the terrorists. Anti-Semitism that never left Europe is awakening with the radical Islam like a cinder that gets a blow of strong wind and turns it into a flame.
    And this should also concern, even alert, Europe, and the rest f the world that believes in values of respecting the other, human rights, freedom of speech, etc.

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    1. Galit, I think it's human to be "egocentric", we all see things through our own glasses. I know on the blogs, I tend to be VERY defensive when the "Christianity is just as dangerous, because the Crusades! The Spanish Inquisition(oh, there is a Monty Python joke just waiting to happen)! Abortion Clinics!" starts. It's my frame of reference. But seriously, as a Jew living in Israel, you have every right to speak out. I can't even fathom the level of hatred that you all experience, and it's not like the Jews haven't experienced the worst of it, and not that long ago. You know what can happen when anti-Semitism reaches a fever pitch, coupled with good people doing nothing to stop it. That's the old joke about the Jewish holidays..."They tried to kill us, they failed, let's eat!"(or let's fast, then we eat!) I may whine about the mocking and disrespect for Christianity, but it is NOTHING compared to the real stuff you have to deal with, and have since the beginning of time.

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  4. I just watched the archives, the show was amazing!!! I really like the 2 of you just sitting and kibbitzing, without guests. It was really nice to hear you expanding on all of the blog comments. I have a couple of comments about the topics, so I'll try to be brief(yeah right LOL).

    1) I will ALWAYS bristle and fight back when the "Christianity was dangerous back in the Dark Ages, so it's unfair to say Islam is the only violent religion" discussion starts. I do hope I was clear in the previous blog....there are peaceful Muslims all over the world(some being killed in the Middle East as we speak for not complying with Sharia!). The problem in the world TODAY is "RADICAL ISLAM". Galit made a comment on the previous blog, asking about "The Denial" and wondering if she was the only one who could see that the Emperor had no clothes. Of course there will always be crazy individuals who do terrible things while yelling "God is Great", but surely you can't deny that they are few and far between compared to the worldwide network of Islamic Radicals. That doesn't excuse those who do evil things in the name of Christ, and I feel it is my responsibility to speak out against those actions.
    I fully understand that the majority of Muslims do not behave like the radicals, but I'll also say the majority of Christians don't act like radicals either. Christians have a "problem" with social conservatism and trying to legislate morality based on what they believe. That is the reason I left the Republican Party(well, that and the way the politicians behave). You are right, Charlie....people want to make laws based on the Bible(but pitch a fit if devout Muslims want to make laws based on some of the tenets of Sharia!!). You'd be surprised at how many Evangelicals are pro-gay marriage, because it's a civil rights issue. I can not expect others to live by MY rules, just as I don't want to live by Sharia. I'm sure it's because I "live in the Evangelical World", I know what many/most Evangelicals believe and how much we detest what goes on in Jesus' name.
    2) That brings me to the "evolution" of Christianity. While the church losing power in Europe may be one of the pieces of the puzzle, I see a bigger picture. Most of what you list as "Christian Terrorism"(for lack of a better word) in history, was done by a very corrupted Catholic Church. The Reformation changed that, and not just because of politics and change in power. Martin Luther studied his Bible and couldn't FIND much of what the CC was teaching at the time! I see a direct link between people returning to the Bible, to what Jesus actually said and taught....and a decrease in the violence and political machinations. We've also "evolved" because the Bible became available to the layman, and the Word was spread. That's part of what's happening with Radical Islam right now....the young men who are being "recruited" in these Middle Eastern nations are illiterate. They do not read the Koran themselves, they are told "what it says" by the radicals.
    #3. Charlie, you mentioned that if a small nation of Christians existed in the Middle East, they too would be in some kind of "first century war" with Radical Islam. Dang Skippy they would. Right now there are Christians living in the ME, whose front doors are marked with a yellow "Arabic letter N"(it looks like a one-eyed smiley face) for "Nazarene". Can you recall a time in recent history, when doors were marked with a yellow symbol, and those inside were targets? I can.

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    1. Great points! Not only is Radical Islam engaged in a "first century war," but it really isn't as unified as we think. Al-Qaeda (Sunni) and Hezbollah (Shi'ite) are two separate Radical Islamic groups, and they certainly don't cooperate with each other (in fact, that's one of the problems in Syria). Both are recognized as terrorist groups by most of the world, so there really isn't a clear enemy, other than they are both Radicals.

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  5. Okay, here's the historian chiming in--there is a huge difference between the Spanish Inquisition and what is happening now (and I'll chime in with the Monty Python joke--nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!). The Spanish Inquisition was more than a reaction against the Protestant Reformation and a defense of Roman Catholicism against the religious reforms occurring at the time (one of which led to the formation of the Jesuits). It was also a way to root out Jews who didn't leave Spain after they were expelled in 1492 (which, incidentally, pretty much destroyed Spain's financial infrastructure since it was disastrous to the banking system). But the Inquisition was also a response to Spain finally driving out the Moors (Muslims) in 1492 after almost 700 years of occupation. You have a nation that has been battling foreign invaders for centuries trying to defend their faith, and that was their response. I'm not defending the Inquisition; as someone whose field is religious history, I find it abhorrent what has been done in the name of religion. But at the same time, we have to understand WHY things have happened in the past and why we should try to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past--and the Spanish Inquisition was nothing like what is happening today, although certainly the anti-Semitism that still is prevalent in Europe certainly implies that things really haven't changed that much after all.

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    1. aren, thank you for your fascinating remark. And if I may add another piece of history, long before the Christians invented the Inquisition the Muslims invented terror: the Fatimid used assassination as a political tool in the 11th century. The term "assassin" derives from the Arabic word hashashin (those who consume hashish) because the fidayees used hashish as an intoxicant and while intoxicated, committed their murders. (See more here http://bit.ly/1yY8trJ )

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