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He's baaaaack!! Join Charles Shaughnessy LIVE Thursday 3 pm PT on TradioV for "Here's A Thought."

Charlie will be back LIVE on TradioV this Thursday, 3 pm PT, with a brand new "Here's A Thought with Charles Shaughnessy" and boy does he have a lot to say!   Don't forget, you can always catch a video on demand of the show if you can't watch live, at this link, after the show airs.

He will be discussing the upcoming election for President, his thoughts, why it's SO important that you first register to vote and then make sure you DO vote!  Let your voice be heard!!  Check out the Rock The Vote website to find out everything you need to know to get registered and about voting.  

He will also be discussing his upcoming appearances on the Syfy Networks brand new show The Magicians which was just renewed for a second season today!   Congratulations to everyone involved with this exciting new show! 

Charlie is thrilled to be a part of this outstanding new show that is based on Lev Grossman's books, playing the part of CHRISTOPHER PLOVER.  He will first appear in episode 9, THE WRITING ROOM, which is scheduled to air on March 14, 2016.  He is also in episode 13, the finale.  Not sure what the air date is, but you will NOT want to miss it!

If you have comments for Charlie about the debates, the candidates, the primaries, The Magicians, please post them in the comments section here and chances are, it's something he is going to be talking about!  


  1. thanks for sharing so thrilled to this is good news can't wait just not sure who to vote for like to hear your ideas ?

  2. I like this good news can't wait

  3. Hello:-) Im very hqppy to see in you in the magicians and I would like to know how it passed the shooting of "the magicians", it was a good experience for you ?

  4. Welcome back Charlie I have been watching all the old shows so I wouldn't have withdrawals hope you have a great 61st birthday love from Australia

  5. So happy to have you back and love the topic! Should be a fun show!
    Hope you have a very Hapoy Birthday on Tuesday!

  6. This election is important for the whole world. Here in the Netherlands we all hope for a democratic President.We hope the American people do not believe the rubbisch Donald Trump tells.
    Good luck on your show and of course: Gefeliciteerd! (Happy Birthday). Have a great day with your lovely family

    1. Very well said Sylvia!
      Goed gezegd! :-D ( mijn moeder is Nederlandse ;-) )

      Janelle and Charlie: happy to listen to and see you both again thursday! ^_^

  7. I wish you a happy birthday and your daughter Madelyn you are a super cool actor and pleasant wholes in the sense you enlightened days but thank you to you for touts that you made for your fans you a hat Mr Shaughnessy

  8. I wish you a happy birthday and your daughter Madelyn you are a super cool actor and pleasant wholes in the sense you enlightened days but thank you to you for touts that you made for your fans you a hat Mr Shaughnessy

  9. I wish you a happy birthday and your daughter Madelyn you are a super cool actor and pleasant wholes in the sense you enlightened days but thank you to you for touts that you made for your fans you a hat Mr Shaughnessy

  10. I wish you a happy birthday and your daughter Madelyn you are a super cool actor and pleasant wholes in the sense you enlightened days but thank you to you for touts that you made for your fans you a hat Mr Shaughnessy

  11. I wish you a happy birthday and your daughter Madelyn you are a super cool actor and pleasant wholes in the sense you enlightened days but thank you to you for touts that you made for your fans you a hat Mr Shaughnessy

  12. Happy Birthday charlie and to madelen to hope u both had a great birthday its good to get back in the swing of things with here's a thought with u and your fans this should be a wild time with your show i hope to get to chat with u this time looking forward to your show good luck with a new season .

  13. I'm very glad that you have had such success with The Magicians as well as recent stage performances. It's also good to have the back. The show and the discussions really do provide some good thought opportunities and a chance to try to understand various sides of a number of issues.

    This election season is extremely important and really does need people to vote. As has been mentioned many times before, the low voter registrations and turnouts are deplorable representations of apathy and complacency among American citizens. Charlie, how much do you think that a sense of political alienation and isolation could affect voter turnout? Not that it's excusable in any sense, but I wonder if there could be a correlation between low voter turnout and a lack of connection with any candidate on either end of the spectrum. Of course, low voter turnout has been a problem for quite some time, but I wonder how much it is influenced by increasing political polarity and isolation.

  14. So happy that you had some fun work experiences(and who knows where they'll lead?!), but glad to have you back on HaT. This election cycle certainly is "interesting". The conversations here should be fun(seriously).
    Becky, I agree, voter turnout has been a problem for a long time, but so much is wrong in the political system. I assume many people DO feel that their vote doesn't matter, that no one is listening, and that the politicians work for lobbyists and not the people. There is also a lack of "understanding of civics", where the Presidential election is treated like some bizarre version of "American Idol". People TRULY believe that the POTUS is the big boss, and everyone else is "under him". And that's not how it works, Congress and the President(and the SCOTUS) are all equal parts of a triangle. That's part of Trump's "appeal"(for lack of a better word), there is a sense that he will go in and be the big boss and fire anyone who doesn't cooperate! To quote the Geico ads "That's not how any of this works!".
    To add a question for the show to that, does anyone else HATE that the electoral college is winner take all? I think that contributes to the voter apathy. I live in a blue state(though we have a Republican governor who appears to be thisclose to dropping out of the GOP primary). I think it's totally unfair that if a state had 10 electoral votes(made up #), and 70% vote Dem, 30% vote Rep, the Dem candidate gets all 10 votes!! Not only does this make your vote impotent, but it also feeds the "class warfare" that is such a problem today.

    1. I've long thought that too many people think that the president is somehow capable of wandering in and bossing everyone and everything in the world around in order to get everything that he wants. It's easy to find that belief with regards to our current POTUS, just look at any one of many social media posts that claim that he does just that. You may actually be onto something in that many people have decided that they can't stand the current administration (or anyone in the Democratic party for that matter) because they believe that he has done just that. It's almost as though, since they believe that the current president has come in and started bossing everyone and everything around, they also believe that electing the loudest and most offensive candidate on their side will be the response who will come in and do the same thing, even though anyone who really understands that our government has three branches, not just one. I've also long thought that the electoral college is an unfair representation of the American people and their votes. I wonder if this is a part of the problem with voter turnout, since it often makes people feel like, regardless of where their vote goes, it won't really make a difference, since the electoral college is all or nothing. I live in a state so notoriously conservative that, almost even before all districts report, the electoral college is ready to cast their votes, regardless of how many people in the state vote differently. For a long time, I have felt that the electoral college is an antiquated practice that should be replaced.

  15. Hello Charlie and Janelle.
    Welcome back Charlie, and apparently, Happy Birthday to you and your daughter, or, if I follow the other "foreigners" יום הולדת שמח-
    Yom Huledet Sameach (Happy Bday in Hebrew...).
    I was kind of disappointed when I understood you won't be broadcasting last month because I went on a family visit to the UK and thought I might be able to listen to you live, but seems like I'll have to listen to the recording.

    anyway, so many things happened across the world since you took the "brake", so many things have happened in my country too and only thanks to the newsletter I was able to remember you're coming back.

    the elections:
    I actually don't even know if I can vote at the primaries, I know I can register for the presidential elections, so I'm mostly waiting to see who will be the candidates in the end, BUT, this time I hardly think there is someone to vote for,
    I find it hard to trust anyone of the candidates, maybe Rubio gives me the impression of someone who can take responsibility and be some kind of a leader, enhancing the words "some kind".
    I guess it's a matter of trust.
    you have a strong opinion against those who don't vote, but I must say that last US elections, here in Israel, many American citizens felt like they had to vote as Israeli Americans, because of the influence US has on the world, my whole extended family who live here voted as absentee citizens. nowadays, although the US still has a great power, I feel and see how this power is lessening and it's influence is worse in many ways (no offence...), so I don't know how influential our vote, as absentees' will be, add to that the fact I wrote above- hardly any worthy candidates in my and many other opinions.
    you mentioned that in Israel we have a much larger percentage of votes, that i believe is not because we have great leadership, on the contrary, the issue here is that we live in a daily struggle to live without being killed because we are what we are in this land and people respond much stronger to fear of security than to any other issue, for example, Le Pen's victory at the first round in France right after the Paris terror attacks, it may even be Churchill during WWII, in the USA people were more supportive of the "firmer" side of politics and the war in Afghanistan and Iraq when 9/11 was raw in the memory, the protests against it became stronger as time went by.
    you don't have the same situation of seeking for a "protector" (again, I don't feel like that about our current Government, but it's still a very valid and present reality), so it seems less urgent to bother voting and choosing a leader, especially with such a poor selection.

    enjoy the live broadcast, guess I'll see you later than the rest.

    1. just to be clear-
      I am definitely not tossing aside all the other important issues of economy in each and every way of it, health, society, inner issues etc. it's just that when you have something that risks your life in an immediate manner, it will be more urgent and crucial to fix it than other things, a little like saving a person who's bleeding excessively, first you need to stop the bleeding before taking care of the tumor you found...

  16. Welcome back! It will be so good to have HAT back on the air,
    This is a very important election, with a lot at stake, and everyone's vote will be very important. So far, we are seeing he result of people's discontentment with government. They are tired of 'politics as usual' and are voting for people who are not "usual"! As a result, we have Trump and Sanders leading in their respective parties.
    The Debates were so different, depending on the party. I just feel that the Democrats handled the Debates so much better, on the whole!
    I agree with you Becky, that the apathy towards voting is deplorable, and it could well be because of their disillusionment with government. In this first primary, however, voter turnout was high, so perhaps, because of the candidates this year, this trend will continue. Maybe Trump will be good for something after all!
    Jo, I too, am not a fan of the Electoral College. I don't think it is very fair either. I also agree, that people are forgetting how government works and that none of them can just Do what they say they will do! They seem to forget about the Congress!!
    My question, or comment is this. Do you feel people are voting with their hearts and not their heads? Do they think about "The Big Picture" or even care?
    I guess we will all have to wait and see what happens. This election is certainly starting out very differently than what anyone thought! It will be interesting, to say the least!

    1. I may not have been clear, I do understand the need for the Electoral College, but I hate the "winner takes all" part.

    2. As someone who lives in a state in which whoever wins Philadelphia pretty much wins the state, I like what they do in Nebraska and Maine in that it's not "winner take all" but whoever wins a congressional district gets that electoral vote and the two electoral votes allocated for the two Senate seats go to the winner of the statewide popular vote. It has resulted in a split vote in Nebraska in a recent election (the vote for the Omaha congressional district went for the Democratic candidate, while the rest of the state supported the Republican). Thus, my vote really does not matter in the presidential election, but it does matter in the congressional election--which is just as important, if not more important. I wish I could just convince our state leaders that people who are registered as Independent voters should still be allowed to participate in one of the party primaries; I might have to select a party just to vote in a primary, if only to vote against a candidate if not for one.

      Meanwhile, I must admit that I am amused at this year's campaigns. The Democrats are doing their best to anoint Hillary Clinton as their nominee and seem a bit stunned at Bernie Sanders's popular appeal. Donald Trump strikes a chord with people who are disillusioned with "politics as usual" from both sides of the aisle, although some of my co-workers have threatened to move to Canada if he wins. I do find it a bit funny that the so-called "party of diversity" has two old white people running for president, while the so-called "party of racists" includes two Latino candidates and an African American.

      About the Electoral College--I think it's an idea that might have worked in the 1790s, but it's not something that truly is "democratic" in the 21st century. But it will take a constitutional amendment to eliminate it, and there probably is as much of a chance of that getting passed by Congress as there is for Congress to pass a term limits amendment (one has been proposed every year by my Congressman, but it's been stuck in committee each time).

  17. Sorry I know I will sound naive but that is the only thought I have in mind everytime I am reading about the upcoming election in your country : how is it possible to take the risk to have someone like Trump leading the USA?!?!
    (and I have to confess -SIC- that Ted Cruz is pretty scary in his ultra religious way too)
    I am worrying :-/

  18. OK produce you this evening for the broadcast. Finally, I am going to be able to look at live Charlie.
    I hope that will still be for a whole season.

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  20. Let me be among those wishing you a very happy return to Here's a Thought! Good to have you back!
    As Becky and JoAnn have said here, and as we all agree, low voter turnout has been a problem for a very long time. It is a very problematic situation, issue, or whatever you want to deem it. How do we fix it?
    I tend to disagree with Becky, that people feel a genuine disconnect with the candidates. They are hard-pressed to believe what the candidates are telling us. With some of the questionable backgrounds of certain candidates, how are we to believe they have our best interests at heart? Are they just on a power trip? I sure hope not! Our national debt, healthcare, economy are at catastrophic proportions!
    Sad as it may seem, people still have the mentality that their vote doesn't count, that the candidates are not listening to them, so they don't vote.
    The Electoral College was established in the Constitution. I guess that mentality too is, if it "ain't" broke, don't try to fix it. Well, maybe it is time for change! Will it happen? Probably not!
    I have cousins in Germany and Switzerland that I communicate with. How do I answer them when they ask what is going on with the candidates and this election? Not sure quite what to say!
    This is going to be a very interesting election year!

    1. Actually Marianne, it sounds like you are agreeing with me rather than disagreeing. I actually can't even remember a time when I felt like I could connect with any political candidate. Almost to a point where it's even more than just disillusionment. I have never felt like I could trust any one of them, I usually feel like they are simply telling people what they want to hear in order to manipulate votes from them. I wonder if the increasing extremes in the politcal parties is pushing people to feel like they can't identify with any of the current candidates and is therefore contributing to lower voter turnout. I don't think it's the only reason, but it could be a contributing factor. As one coming from this perspective, I admit it's very difficult to decide for whom to cast my vote. I always do vote, I just have a difficult time figuring out what direction to point my vote. In elections like this year, when the polarity seems so extreme, it makes it even MORE difficult since there's even less for me to relate to on either side.

    2. Becky, I DO agree with you. I should have done a better job of proofreading. What you just said above is a feeling that MANY of us share this election year. We just have to HOPE that we make the right decision when we vote.

    3. Don't worry, I have posted some things that I look at later and realize that they barely qualify as English. That happens especially if I'm responding with my phone. One of these days we will learn to proofread. :)

  21. Sorry I couldn't be heard by Charlie & Susan. I did try to call back but to no avail. Just technical difficulties, it happens. Loved the topics & the conversations between Charlie & Susan mirrored how I feel about the elections, politics etc. Hope Susan comes back a lot, lovely & smart lady. Until next time. Have a lovely week Charlie, Susan & TC.

  22. Great show! Really enjoyed it and Susan was wonderful! She is a natural! First of all, I want to say that I totally agree with Susan! You were amazing in Act 3! So glad I got to see it. Rita Rudner was great too! Secondly, I am loving The Magicians! I am such a scifi fan so this is right up my alley. It is dark and interesting. Really good!

    As a Hillary supporter, of course I agreed with most of the show. I worry about Bernie Sanders stealing voters from her because of his being so different. I just feel that if it's Bernie against Trump, Trump could win!! I really believe Hillary has what it takes to be a good President. I don't agree that the problems of the Republican Party can be blamed on Reagan. He attracted more Democrats to vote for him than any other GOP candidate. I don't think he would recognize the Republican Party right now!

    Regarding the youth, and their support for Bernie, I sometimes feel that they like to hear all his new ideas and are not concerned about the "how to implement them" part!

    On a lighter note, loved the music and hope we get some more of that "rain" soon!

    So glad HAT is back! I really missed it! Looking forward to reading the comments on the blog and the show next week. Get well soon Janelle!

  23. Just watched the video on the website, really good show and lovely to see Susan again. You definitely should have her on regularly. I totally agree with her about the Super Bowl ads...yuck. Hard to believe they pay Madison Ave bigshots large amounts of money to come up with that drek. I have one thing to say about that: PuppyMonkeyBaby.
    The discussion on the show itself was a little frustrating for me in parts. I am not a Republican any more, but the majority of my friends are. I'm just not grasping, Charlie, how you can continue to go back to the "white racist Dixiecrats" stuff every time the subject comes up. I don't know ANYONE who is 'that kind' of Republican, and I don't know anyone who isn't horrified by Trump and wondering what to do about that situation. Even here on the blog, we've discussed this electoral season several times, and no one(R, D, Indie, non-American) has expressed anything but disgust for Trump! You said this week, that people will say that the Trump-eters don't represent them, and you still insist that they're wrong. I think people who are in the Republican trenches and who know lots of Republicans, are a better judge of what the demographics are. I have a hard time understanding why you are stuck on this groove in the record, despite evidence to the contrary right here on your blogs.
    As for Hillary, well of course you have the right to support her and have very valid reasons for doing so, I'm envious that you have that! But, I do hope you can also understand that she is loved by some and loathed by others, not much middle ground. But that can be a discussion for another day, as the election proceeds.
    My final comment is about something Susan touched on, the "obstructionist" Congress. When we have a country that is basically polarized, and divided 50/50, that's going to lead to gridlock. Bernie Sanders is praised for being so true to his beliefs, and always voting his conscience. But if a Tea-Party type candidate stands by their beliefs and refuses to budge, they are an obstructionist ideologue. Do you really think that if the R candidate should win, and we end up with a President Cruz or Rubio(I can't even SAY the other possibility)....that Congress is suddenly going to gather round, sing Kum-ba-yah, and start coming up with solutions? No way!! But if Congress were to block Pres. Cruz, you'd be happy because it would show that his ideas weren't liked and you would feel strongly that his policies need to be stopped! You wouldn't call them obstructionist. It's only "obstruction" when it's your guy being thwarted LOL.
    All that said, I have no idea what I'm going to do. It will depend on the final choices, and whether I feel it will make a difference. And I also(gasp!!) don't vote straight ticket, I vote for the person who is best for the job. I WANT them to join ideas and compromise, not just ram thru one side's vision.

    1. As much as I can agree that no one on the blog here has openly come out supporting Trump, the numbers in the polls tell the story that he DOES have supporters. I do see some of those supporters in some of the people I know. What worries me is that a large number of people who don't support him may think that he is simply too extreme for the GOP to actually give him the nomination, and therefore they don't worry about voting for another candidate. Much like Sanders, people are listening to everything he says with the concept that he will be able to go in and immediately do everything he claims without any opposition. They are capitalizing on that ignorance and trying to convince their supporters that they are going to somehow be an exception to the American Constitution and be able to just come in and do whatever they want. I fear that, should any candidate like that win, it will be nothing but a colossal waste of taxpayer money as whoever happens to be "obstructionist" seeks to keep them from doing whatever they propose to accomplish. Of course, as you pointed out, the obstructionism is going to happen no matter who is in office because it's always going to be about who's party is in office, and we can't compromise, can't reach across the isle, and can't even come close to accepting the idea that someone from the other side might have something good to offer. With the current state of things, I would not be surprised to find the words "politics" and "compromise" listed in a thesaurus as distinct antonyms.

    2. I hear your cry, JoAnn, I really do. But let me clarify here a couple of points. The fact is that no matter how many Republicans claim that Trump does not represent the GOP, he is getting more votes than any of the others. He is shaping up to be THE GOP nominee. That means that Republican voters "en masses" have chosen him as representative of their views. My reference to the Dixiecrats is in the context of how , historically, the GOP has sought to increase it's base with fringe extremists. Dixiecrats( Thurmond et al.) Christian Fundamentalists ( Falwell et al) Tea Partiers ( Cruz et al. ) this is not a theory but a fact. Name me one fringe "hate-group"- and I say that advisedly as their rhetoric is always tinged with hate and fear of negroes, blasphemers, liberals - like these that have been embraced by the Democrats. Yes, Bernie is appealing to the frustrated and angry, but Trump is appealing to the haters.
      Of course politics involves partisanship, but I cannot remember a single Democrat congress that has proudly announced a "policy" of opposing the President "in all things" so as to break the system of government. This GOP has done so on numerous occasions. Tip O'Neil is spinning in his grave.

    3. Thanks. I do understand what you're saying, it's just not what I'm seeing. I also see some really vicious comments from liberals on various websites, and I'm sure I'm overly sensitive to it because I'm a conservative Evangelical(who doesn't like Evangelical social values being part of politics). I found an article that really nails how I feel about Trump's candidacy and why I feel he's polling well. I know you don't want us to post links, the article is entitled "When It Comes to Donald Trump, I Hate Everyone" by Mollie Hemingway(on the federalist dot com. ). You might find it an interesting read.

    4. It was a very good article Jo! It hit many points I so agree with!

    5. Yes very interesting! Indeed!

      Ps : is it right you don't want us to post links? I didn't know.
      I always post links here since I am writing on the blog. Sorry then!

      May I ask why?

    6. Thank you Sharon. I was really thrilled to find it, saying "yes! yes! That's what I mean!" the whole time I was reading it. I do wish that the author had used the words "I'm furious with" instead of "I hate"(I hate that word LOL). To me, the most important sentence in that article was "don’t confuse message-sending support for Trump with actual support for Trump." Those "statistics" about how many support Trump don't distinguish between people who are justifiably angry with the GOP and want to send them a strong message(which I can understand, though I wish it was someone different) and those who actually AGREE with Trump(which I can NOT condone). I guess I can sort of understand what Charlie means, I don't think all Trump supporters are white supremacists, but I think white supremacists support Trump.

  24. "Compromise" a beautiful word that I particularly like! :)

    1. Yes! Compromise! Now wouldn't that be a novel approach! That's what we need!

  25. I caught it this morning in the archives. Once again, very good and thought provoking show.

    While there were a number of really interesting things discussed on the show, one thing that really resonated in my mind was about the difference between a politician flip-flopping and changing their mind is really the reasoning behind that change. Too often, it’s easy to think of politicians of not being able to change their minds or they are simply flip-flopping. It should be acceptable for politicians to change their minds without fear of offending someone, so long as it is a legitimate change of heart. However, believing that it’s a true change of heart is more difficult when it comes to politicians, since so much of what it takes to be a successful politician involves trying to speak to what the people want to hear. And if it’s simply a politician changing their mind because they want to please the people in order to get more votes, then it’s fair to say they are flip-flopping. But something else that Susan commented on that stuck with me was about how too many politicians act like the people aren’t capable of accepting that they might have changed their minds on something. I couldn’t agree more. Too many politicians treat the people like mindless sheep, incapable of analytic thought, thus insulting the intelligence of the people they are supposed to be representing. I will agree with a lot of what Jo said because, interestingly, when people look at any politician’s change of mind, the perspective of it being flip-flopping or not depends heavily on whether or not they are of the same party as the politician. That’s also when the name-calling and dismissive nature of many political conversations start. I also agree with Jo in the fact that it’s pretty close minded to think that it’s only one party with problems or who try to blame the other party for anything and everything possible. All I have to do is go onto any social media outlet and I can easily find a myriad of people, from either party, posting accusations about politician A, or blaming politician B for changing their mind about something. It goes both ways, and both sides are quick to jump on the idea that the other side started it, the other side is worse, the other side is the real culprit. I don’t have to look far to find that from friends and family members on both extreme sides of the spectrum. Some of my very left-wing friends and family openly call anyone not on the extreme left selfish idiots who don’t understand anything and who should cease to exist. Heaven help anyone who disagrees with them. That’s at the same time that, because of the extreme right-wing nature of some of my family, I’ve been banned from participating in political conversations because someone doesn’t like that I will argue against the extremes on both sides. Obstructionism and heroic efforts to “thwart the bad guy from the other side” really just depends on which side you want to see have anything happen. When Republicans have the presidency, the Republicans say the Democrats in Congress participate in obstructionist politics while the Democrats praise any efforts to keep the other side from accomplishing their fascist plans. Sounds a lot like what’s happened over the last eight years, just with the names reversed.

  26. well, the race just turned on its head, with Scalia's death. Obama is saying he brought intellect and good judgment to the bench. So even if you don't agree with him, he was admired for his knowledge. A conservative site I follow is talking about someone named Sri Srinivasan as a more moderate nomination that wouldn't make too much of a mess with confirmation. Of course, this is Washington DC we're talking about, so who knows. The SCOTUS is a big issue anyway, with Ginsburg's health and age. Politics may be infuriating, but they're never dull!!

    1. I couldn't agree more Jo! Politics are definitely never dull! More like the good the bad and the ugly!

  27. so, I've just listened to the show now. it was lovely to have Susan back on the show.
    I think that in these coming months you might want to bring someone who disagrees with you on the political sides of the map, I see time after time that most of the conversations are you guys agreeing with each other while complaining about others not letting diversity and different opinions in. it's very nice to comment here on the blog and read what others have to say, but it's another thing when it's live, I think that diversity in the broadcasting once in awhile can be good for the show.
    I agree with MissJoAnn's saying about the topic of the "obstructionist" Congress and I'd add to it that you talk in a very civilised manner basically saying that right wing voters are thinking like a herd with their reflexes rather than rationally unlike the democrat voters, but I can see it also on the other side, I see voters from the left also ignoring reality and choosing again and again to act the same way they've acted all along no matter what the outcome was, we all remember the phrase related to Einstein about the definition of insanity.
    Bernie sanders isn't bringing anything new. the youth voters who are so enthusiastic about his socialist views need to just learn history and see what happened to Socialist economies and civilizations.
    you keep praising the Kibbutzim in Israel (who were idealistic socialists) but their economy failed badly, in fact, my grandfather who was a very respected economist in Israel in the US, has predicted the fall of this idealism decades before it did in his master's. in a way, this type of government can easily lead to a dictatorship which we all want to avoid.
    as for Hillary Clinton- I don't believe her for one second. sorry, my experience won't let me.
    as for you defending her change of mind, this is acceptable of course, I just wonder what would you have said if it had happened on the opposite side of the political map, if it was a Republican, or G-d forbid, if she was for gay marriage for example and then change her mind to be against it, would you then call her changing of min a "flip flop"?

    one more thing. the fact that in Israel we have national service isn't all what makes us take matters to our hands. I didn't go to the army because I'm a religious woman, but I did do national service- a year of volunteering. the thing is that many of us who don't do any official national service or even oppose the state (very ultra orthodox for example) even they have a sense of responsibility because of our nation, no because of the state, the fact that we are Jews gives the sense of partnership, brotherhood. it will be a mistake to think that this is just because we've all been persecuted for millenniums, it's because we feel belonged to each other for better or worse, it's even stated in this sentence from over 1800 years ago- all of Israel are guarantors for each other, we can't help it and that's the way I've been educated- living a life of not just responsibility of myself but also towards any other fellow Jew, no matter where he lives, so, participating in the elections has to be part of this responsibility.
    sorry for overdoing it this time, I just felt the need to explain myself better.
    thanks again for this discussion platform you're providing here.

  28. I couldn't agree more. I set out to make this show more of a dialogue between me and an opposing voice, but couldn't find anyone to sit in that seat. One's friends tend to be of a like-minded perspective ( though not exclusively,) and, to be honest, I could not find a GOP voice ( among my friends,) that was able to formulate cogent arguments here in Los Angeles.
    Any suggestions? So, for the moment, this is where we can disagree.
    Let me start with Bernie and his "socialism." He is a Social Democrat and America has been a social democracy for a long time. What else is social security, medicaid, unemployment benefit, FEMA,Public Education if not socially democrat programs? The trouble with people here is that they are, on a very basic level, very ignorant of their own country. I had an argument with someone recently who was railing against "BigGovernment" programs and insisting that his family " made it on their own, without government help" whilst, in the same breath, saying that they had taken social security and food stamps!!!
    My point about Israel had nothing to do with religion and all to do with the Israeli's innate sense of responsibility to their homeland. " Ask not what your country can do for you, ask rather what you can do for your country." JFK's words to live by.


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